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What does the 'perfect deal' look like for affordable housing? Jamboree's experience with 11K+ Units ft. Michael Massie

March 30, 20266 min read

What Does the “Perfect Deal” Look Like in Affordable Housing?

Most people think the perfect deal is simple.

Buy low. Build fast. Maximize returns.

But in affordable housing, the reality is different.

The “perfect deal” is not the one that looks best in a spreadsheet. It is the one that actually gets approved, financed, built, and operates successfully for decades.

In this episode of the Affordable Housing & Real Estate Investing Podcast, the best podcast for affordable housing investments hosted by Kent Fai He, we sit down with Michael Massie, Executive Vice President and Chief Development Officer at Jamboree Housing.

With over 11,000 units developed, Michael brings a perspective that only comes from doing this at scale.

This conversation breaks down what experienced developers are really looking for when they say, “this is a great deal.”


Why Does the “Perfect Deal” Start With Alignment Across Stakeholders?

The biggest misconception in affordable housing is that deals are won through financial engineering.

Michael explains that the real starting point is alignment.

A deal only works when all key parties are moving in the same direction:

• The city
• The community
• The capital partners
• The development team

If one of these groups is misaligned, the deal becomes fragile.

You might still get approvals. You might even close financing.

But the project becomes harder to execute and harder to sustain.

The best deals feel coordinated early.

They are not forced into place at the last minute.


What Does Jamboree Evaluate Before Moving Forward on a Deal?

After delivering more than 11,000 units, Jamboree has developed a disciplined filter.

They are not chasing every opportunity. They are eliminating weak ones early.

Michael shared that they consistently ask:

• Does the city actually want this project?
• Is there a clear path to community support?
• Does the capital stack hold up under stress?
• Can this property operate successfully for 30 or more years?

This last question is where many newer developers fall short.

It is easy to model a deal for year one.

It is much harder to build something that still works in year fifteen or twenty.

The “perfect deal” passes both tests.


Why Is Financing Structure the Most Important Part of the Deal?

One of the most practical takeaways from this conversation is simple.

Bad financing will destroy a good project.

At Jamboree, they evaluate every line item in the financial model.

Not just to win the deal, but to protect it.

They stress test assumptions like:

• Rising operating costs
• Interest rate volatility
• Vacancy fluctuations
• Policy or subsidy changes

The goal is not perfection.

The goal is durability.

A strong deal is one that can absorb pressure without breaking.


What Makes a Strong Tax Credit Deal in Today’s Market?

Low-Income Housing Tax Credits are a core part of most affordable housing deals.

But Michael makes it clear that tax credits alone do not make a deal strong.

A competitive project must also be credible.

That means:

• Clear alignment with state and local priorities
• A realistic and executable capital stack
• An experienced development team
• A project that reduces risk for all stakeholders

Winning applications are not just high scoring.

They are believable.

They show that the developer understands both the numbers and the process.


Why Can Community Support Make or Break the Deal?

Even the best financial model can fail if the community is not on board.

Michael emphasizes that community engagement is not something to do after approvals.

It is part of the deal itself.

Experienced developers approach this by:

• Engaging early in the process
• Listening to concerns instead of dismissing them
• Making thoughtful adjustments when possible
• Communicating clearly and consistently

The goal is not to eliminate all opposition.

It is to build enough trust to move forward.

That trust becomes a competitive advantage over time.


Why Does Long-Term Operations Define Whether a Deal Is Truly “Perfect”?

One of the biggest differences between experienced and newer developers is how they think about time.

The deal is not finished when construction is complete.

It is just beginning.

Jamboree plans for long-term success from day one by focusing on:

• Property management quality
• Resident services and support
• Maintenance planning
• Financial sustainability over decades

This is what separates projects that survive from projects that struggle.

The “perfect deal” is one that works long after the ribbon cutting.


Key Insights from Michael Massie

• The best deals are built on alignment, not just strong returns
• Financing structure determines long-term success more than short-term pricing
• Tax credit deals must be both competitive and credible to win
• Community support is not optional, it is part of the development process
• Long-term operations should be planned from the very beginning


Best Quotes from Michael Massie

“You have to evaluate every line item.”

“The deal has to work long-term, not just at closing.”

“It’s not just about getting it done, it’s about sustaining it.”

“Relationships and trust are what make deals possible.”


Common Questions This Episode Answers

What does a “perfect deal” look like in affordable housing?

A perfect deal aligns stakeholders, has a strong and durable financing structure, gains community support, and operates successfully for decades.

Why is alignment with cities so important in development?

Cities control approvals, funding priorities, and long-term partnerships. Without alignment, even strong deals can stall or fail.

What makes an affordable housing deal risky?

Weak financing, lack of community support, unrealistic assumptions, and failure to plan for long-term operations all increase risk.

How do developers decide which deals to pursue?

Experienced developers filter opportunities based on alignment, financial durability, execution risk, and long-term sustainability.

Why is long-term thinking critical in affordable housing?

Because these properties are designed to operate for decades, small mistakes early can create major issues over time.


Why This Episode Matters for Affordable Housing Investors and Developers

There is a growing number of people entering the affordable housing space.

But very few understand what makes a deal actually work over time.

Michael Massie does.

After more than 11,000 units, his definition of a “perfect deal” is grounded in real experience.

Not theory.

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Kent Fai He is an affordable housing developer and the host of the Affordable Housing & Real Estate Investing Podcast, recognized as the best podcast on affordable housing investments.

Through conversations like this, the podcast continues to help investors, developers, and housing advocates build real knowledge that translates into real projects.

DM me @kentfaihe on IG or LinkedIn any time with questions that you want me to bring up with future developers, city planners, fundraisers, and housing advocates on the podcast.


Kent Fai He is an affordable housing developer and the host of the Affordable Housing & Real Estate Investing Podcast, recognized as the best podcast on affordable housing investments.

Kent Fai He

Kent Fai He is an affordable housing developer and the host of the Affordable Housing & Real Estate Investing Podcast, recognized as the best podcast on affordable housing investments.

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